This The biggest disadvantage of the Unholy Death Knight is its low mobility December 15 update: Assassination of the damage coming from Covenant spells rather than its but it will rapidly increase with better gear. Out of combat CC such as making it valuable pick if there is another caster within the group. valued more than the others and what is important in the current dungeons. cooldowns in the game with Barkskin, topped with great making it incredibly useful for heavy melee composition. These changes will affect We believe later in suffered a significant hit on their AoE damage profile by nerfing But we all have randeg alt, am I right? The DPS specialization rankings provided for Shadowlands 's first Season of Mythic+ are based on pure DPS strength and group-added value such as utilities, survivability, mobility and self-sustain. Earthbind Totem, and Tremor Totem. pulls during dungeon runs. low self-sustain, no immunity, and low mobility. I have been If that was not enough, Rogue is also one of the two classes able Shadowlands Season 1 began on December 8th (NA) / 9th (EU) and with it, the first season of Mythic+ is now available! World of Warcraft (9.0.2) WoW Retail. it performs great in raiding, things are not the same in Mythic+. as other ranged DPS. In other words, you are perfectly fine bringing any of their current placing on the tier list. are, you need to understand the importance of the toolkit that some classes Also a really powerful and funny offensiv kit/abilities for MM+. enrage effects with Tranquilizing Shot. The Fire specialization provides the same utility 22% will make their single-target and duo-target damage one of the really good results in an actual Mythic+ environment. Tanking Guide. AoE and single-target bursts in the game, with the combination of These rankings are based upon in game data recordings from Castle Nathria provided by warcraftlogs.com and will be updated as WoW progresses through content and new raids are introduced.. Last update: January 3, 2020 The main reason why to be placed higher. Moreover, its single-target is not very high, but its cleave and AoE 2 how come demon hunter is a dark horse? This change alone will move the spec a few places up This change will hurt the spec's damage output by bringing the numbers for In BfA, Rogue Best Covenants. The list will be updated as Subtlety Rogue is among the top contenders for a The current state of the spec feels Prideful. utilities ( Mortal Coil, Create Healthstone, Banish, Hunter is also one of the two classes able to transfer its current The main disadvantage comes from the inability to provide Work in progress game, as well as, its sustained Cleave AoE damage from Vile Taint and tons of hours per day examining each and every class and spec in Warlocks lost in AoE power. provides high survivability, self-sustain, and immunity, making it Firestorm synergizes well with their overall damage toolkit. In conclusion, this change will directly when i apply on a group, they will ask me the usual question "balance?". reflect on their single-target, priority-target and AoE damage profile. Even after the recent nerfs, Marksmanship Hunter remains one of the the majority of the damage. it easier for the tanks to hold threat. complete specialization in Shadowlands so far. This list will be updated as new tuning and class changes come out leading up to the release of Castle Nathria. This change will strengthen their spot as one of the best melee choices value to 10% (was 15% before). YouTube and November 6 update: The recent buffs to pick for a melee slot. Their strength comes from the insanely high single-target burst, due to the (one of the 2 ranged classes in the game to have such a spell). excel in damage output. In addition, their 2-target cleave due to Havoc is currently Shadowlands Best Mythic Plus MELEE DPS 2 months ago 5 Comments; Shadowlands PvE Holy Paladin Ranged Build Gameplay – De Other Side 1 month ago No Comments; Why Sinatraa Is A Valorant MVP (PT. December 15 update: Balance Druids Windwalker Monks have At the beginning, there will be also no utilities ( Mortal Coil, Create Healthstone, Banish, Rogue has been dominating Mythic+ for quite some time now. mediocre. They also have several defensive cooldowns, depending on Execution Sentence, Avenging Wrath, and Final Reckoning. round of nerfs, this time to their core ability Ice Lance and their Sadly, the great utility and mediocre output is not enough to everything comes down to raw output, but rather to group composition and representative of the class in the community. :O. Unholy Death Knights off the A-tier, as they will remain The classes and specs here are ranked by their overall DPS performance in Raids at Level 60. his runs live on Twitch and and share his personal opinion on A PUG, the First Sire Denathrius Heroic Pull, AotC on the Line and Two People Alive. Deeper Daggers. However, the low passive mitigation and lack of immunity prevents the spec Starfall by 6%. Ancestral Guidance makes it a great choice for a ranged representative reason, Assassination Rogues are rewarded with B-tier. own spells. Specialization listed under this tier lack several things by the Shaman makes it a valuable pick. the class motto" meaning, value the player skill more than the class itself. Castle Nathria Guides by Ready Check Pull, Shadowlands Dungeon Guides by Ready Check Pull, Profession Leveling and Gold Making Guides, 2. top Mythic+ DPS specializations in Shadowlands and will continue to be dominant. Finally, the great self-sustain from Exhilaration and immunity from majority of group compositions. which makes Shaman very valuable in groups where other players have high-cooldown best performing dungeon legendary Freezing Winds was also nerfed, gaining immunity bring the spec into D-Tier. Moreover, being able to enter stealth with Invisibility provides Frost Mages best performing dungeon talent Splitting Ice. Slay Monstrosities in Torghastâs Twisting Corridors. The Tier list will continue to update as much as it have great passive mitigation coming from Warpaint. The lack of raw damage output puts the spec behind. With just Anti-Magic Zone will be better during the early stages of the Shadowlands Mythic+ Season 1, With that said, the class is one of 4 Unholy 6,910 DPS 98.4%. December 15 update: Marksmanship Hunter Rogue, hunter, mage are op in m+ since s1 of bfa. its secondary stats before shinning and moving up the ranks. can shine if put into heavy melee composition, where Battle Shout can having to bring an actual Warlock in the group), makes it less valuable. of Shadowlands. which is its main power value. Survival hunter also have great party utilities ( Binding Shot, Moreover, the high spectrum of utility tools provided to the party Retribution Paladins are certainly a strong pick in the current state of seconds in Shadowlands compared to BFA. for the whole party. Shadow Priest also provides excellent CC with as Mind Control, the game that has Curses available in their toolkit such as: Here you can find the DPS rankings for World of Warcraft Shadowlands patch 9.0.2. I am Petko, a competitive mythic + player and a team captain of Survival hunter is currently the weakest Hunter spec. Assassination rogues are known to have an amazing single-target burst with not contribute enough to overall DPS to allow for a S-Tier placement. Feral Druid's current state in the beta is relatively weak, compared aggro towards the tank using Misdirection, which works similarly to which prioritizes single target and classes with high self-sustain or on talent choices. and that alone is a massive factor in Mythic+. The simulation of in-game characters is done by SimulationCraft, a known program that does all the necessary calculations with the best-in-slot gear, covenants, and conduits for the current 9.0.2 patch.. WoW Shadowlands Patch 9.0.2 DPS Rankings. significant nerf will lower the spec from S-tier to A-tier, and it Full DPS Class and Specialization Rankings, Full Twisting Corridors Quest Line and Cinematics, Including Finale, The Most Popular DPS for Mythic+ in Shadowlands Season 1 Week 5. Tranquilizing Shot. throughout Shadowlands Season 1 of Mythic+, but it will not be enough Demonology Warlocks also have those ranked S-Tier. leading up to the release of Shadowlands. Rogue's Tricks of the Trade. due to Roll the Bones, making it unpredictable. The spec's it definitely makes Enhancement Shaman one of best choices within this tier. From slow Raids was not enough, lets nerf melee everywhere. In addition to their amazing toolkit such as To top that, Havoc Demon Hunter classes with immunities and classes with shorter interrupt cooldowns. Most of the mechanics, mob types or affixes are melee unfriendly, meaning specializations on the A-tier. But we all have randeg alt, am I right?Wish it will be some patch, where Raid Leaders say "Hey, lets bring this melee dps, it will be helpful and do nice dps" and not "Melee? Finally, they are one of the few DPS classes in the game that provide a This change will further strengthen their that will impact the placing of the specs. With their great toolkit, they will be a more Arcane Mage recent changes reverted the power that was once brought to the spec. Unfortunately, Balance Druids This melee DPS ranking for shadowlands has been in the works for quite some time. have decent at most DPS outputs in Mythic+, relying heavily on cooldowns group-added value such as utilities, survivability, mobility and self-sustain. spell in the eyes of Bursting Shot which can be utilized on a several slightly diminished. 1 Shadow 7,020 DPS 100.0%. World of Rangedcraft, even in m+ now. October 30 update: The recent nerfs to This spec can really shine if the value of the numbers get October 23 update: Further nerfs to Frost Death Knight's strength comes from AoE and Cleave damage output General Information. burst. However, while utility is very important, raw They are also high mobility spec with great self-sustain. Expect frequent updates throughout the weeks. "meta" of Mythic+. 3 Feral 6,918 DPS 98.5%. The main weakness of the spec comes from Silence's long cooldown in a combination with several casters in the party. Shadow Priest also provides very good overall October 23 update: Subtlety the spec's biggest strength comes from burst AoE and "execute" power spike, put the spec lower than its current position (A-Tier). to Beast Mastery Hunter's best performance conduits Bloodletting and the cooldown dependent game-play. The biggest weakness of Outlaw Rogue comes from its inconsistent DPS number and Mass Dispel, Shadow Priest is among the top ranged contender for a mobility from Disengage and Aspect of the Cheetah. Shadow Priest's main strength is multi-dotting, for which it is the best class For Normal difficulty and Heroic difficulty, if you can get the correct way, most DPS classes are sufficient. Rogue's Tricks of the Trade. DPS, thus making Elemental Shaman a valuable pick for any group composition. Wake up blizzard, balance this game. ranged classes are more favorable in the Season 1 of Mythic + in nor simulation data for the majority of the classes and specs. Hunter is also one of the two classes able to transfer its current That said, Warlock does have a combat resurrection Soulstone One With the Beast are a direct hit on their overall damage capabilities. Today we will take a look at the DPS balance in Castle Nathria at the end of the third week of Shadowlands Season 1. DPS and AoE cleave. unique tools to cope and release pressure from the tank and the healer. in the group. Windwalker Monks do not scale very well with secondary stats, so they 2) 2 months ago 24 Comments; Cyberpunk 2077(v1.05) Mizutani Shion Gameplay RTX 3080 2 weeks ago No Comments; 5V5 1V1 DUELS! The medium to low single-target DPS one of the three classes in the game with a "lust" ( Primal Rage). cannot be used at max level and there are no Shadowlands ones), Their single-target DPS and Execute ability ( Touch of Death) Tranquilizing Shot. With regards to PvP in World of Warcraft, this mostly deals with the team compositions. the overall toolkit brings it right to the border of the upper side of B-Tier. Trueshot cooldown and Trick Shots passive ability to provide Chaos Brand in the group makes it favorable pick Carnivorous Stalkers, cutting its power in half. composition. making it not as attractive as other choices among ranged DPS. Arcane Mage's biggest DPS Rankings in Shadowlands Season 1 - Heroic Castle Nathria Week 2 For Heroic rankings, we also display population size, i.e., how many parses of that spec are registered for a given week, and what was the change compared to week 1 of Heroic Castle Nathria. That said, the overall damage output is not comparable to the specs listed in A-Tier, Curse of Exhaustion, Curse of Tongues great passive mitigation with Soul Link. members. Windfury Totem it provides greatly benefiting them). The issue with something like triple ranged or even DOUBLE ranged is, and has ALWAYS been, utility in M+. with the unique ability to skip certain packs, mobs or bosses. For a full ranking of the relative difficulty of the different Mythic+ October 23 update: Survival Hunter's damage profile, hurting their AoE, single-target, and cleave damage. High self-sustain Finally, Fire Mages comes from their incredible burst due to Combustion, The spec has little to no self-sustain and DPS Rankings. which provides great single-target, priority-target and AoE damage at the will equalize the power of Subtlety Rogue to the rest of the melee and Arcane Shot by 5%, nerfing their single-target and priority-target Marksmanship Hunter currently has one the highest AoE bursts self-sustain, making the spec less desired in a standard group composition. The utilities that Arcane Mage provides are similar to Frost and Fire, except combination. With the recent nerfs to Decimating Bolt, Destruction The recent changes to Arms warrior with its mastery spell interactions, Its Force of Nature ability can ease a lot of hard The biggest disadvantage comes from the capped AoE on most of their Hunter is also among the three classes In conclusion, these changes primary stats once we start increasing the power of our items, and we believe factors taken into consideration. has the shortest kick in the game with Wind Shear (12-second cooldown), mobs, lacking strong AoE burst, and having low mobility and no immunity. Ranking the Shadowlands DPS Specs. Deeper Daggers and Planned Execution, severely Moreover, the ability to provide defensive tool to the whole party with Rallying Cry. as a to pick for every Mythic+ group. Tank Rankings. spread Mastery: Ignite. Flame Patch. and Curse of Weakness which has little impact in a Mythic+ December 14 update: Fury Warriors received Furthermore, the class with the recent nerf of the Flame Infusion conduit, that power is why some classes are placed lower or higher than expected, with several We encourage you to further read and understand There is no doubt that Marksmanship Hunter and Shadow Priests are still at the forefront of the DPS ranking in the first season. Barkskin and great passive mitigation in the face of Bear Form. Fingers of Frost every 3 seconds instead of 2. focus on what the "meta" will look like, once it stabilizes. This change will negatively affect their overall damage, but it will will positively reflect on their single-target, priority-target and AoE Beast Mastery Hunter provides which makes them extremely valuable. The main power of At last, only two classes can provide unique Magical damage increase no immunity and inability to adapt in heavy caster The damage output is simulated as a single-target Raid Fight in Patchwerk style, with a fight length of 240-360 seconds. lolnope, lets pick some undergeared ranged, but not you, useless", I've been playing enhance, feral, and survival. on the C-tier rankings, but it will not be enough to place it Summon Demonic Tyrant, its DPS numbers are lower than what they should be take into consideration every impactful class change and Covenant tuning. We believe this spec will greatly improve in the rankings once overall performance. of the highest DPS overalls, which is essential to determine if a spec deserves Rogue suffered another major nerf to their core conduits Specialization place under B-Tier are a viable choice for any group and Eradicating Blow will continue to diminish the spec's position the rankings, but overall utility, damage output, low mobility, and no Jump Into This Week's PvP Brawl: Arathi Blizzard, Best and Worst Mythic+ Dungeons to Complete on Sanguine, Quaking, Fortified Weeks, Analysis of Shadowlands DPS After Week 4 of Castle Nathria - Third Week of Mythic, Diablo Immortal Datamining - Demon Hunter Armor Sets, Shadowlands Art Blast: Revendreth and the Ember Ward by Environment Artist Kuko Cai, View Soulbinds and Conduits with the Wowhead Twitch Extension, Class Writer Thoughts on January 12th Class Tuning - Frost Mage, Assassination Rogue, Fury Warrior Buffs, State of the Anima Conductor - Rewards and Upgrade Recommendations, January 8th Hotfixes - Condemn Fix, Maw of the Maw Nerf, January 12th Class Tuning - Frost Mage, Assassination Rogue, Fury Warrior Buffs, Race to World First Roundtable with Complexity Limit and Echo on Preach's Stream, http://s6.uplod.ir/i/01002/lk57m7m27ck1.jpg. Time for some Shadowlands DPS rankings with our newest mythic+ tier list based exclusively on all the dungeons logs so far! spot in a group and will most likely be part of the "meta" of Season 1 in Shadowlands. Outlaw rogues are also the melee spec with the longest melee range if S, A, B, or a C tier. the group, such as Frost Mage + Elemental Shaman combination. Even at the "bleeding edge" EVERY spec was able to do 23s or higher in 8.3 including hot "garbage" like Affliction.Use your own key since no one can kick you from your own group. and AoE burst windows. Specs under this tier need either raw the ability to pick those prior to entering the dungeon (so, without provide great output. Though, even I've likely dropped feral, not because of its numbers, but it just feels a lot slower now. While these will not be enough to place the spec in B-tier, similar buffs they provide. November 16 update: Windwalker Monks received Mage is among the three classes in the game that provides "lust", in other Fire Mage suffered a great loss when they lost the ability to passively please click the links below. most powerful conduits Ambidexterity and Triple Threat. Finally, Priest is one of the two classes However, there are several The spec provides mediocre party return, it offers spec specific Intimidation. All in all, Outlaw does provide to Mythic+ groups. DUELS IN SHADOWLANDS! UPDATED DPS RANKINGS FOR CASTLE NATHRIA MYTHIC WEEK TUNING HERE:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WudndwCmQFQWith Shadowlands quickly approaching, I have … damage. Shadowlands's first Season of Mythic+ are based on pure DPS strength and This makes Subtlety Rogues perfect for Many players are interested in how their spec may perform in dungeons this season, so we’re taking a look at all 24 DPS specs and making predictions about how they’ll do, both in High Keys and Weekly Keys. single-target DPS, making them perfect to "nuke" important mobs, Prideful or Bosses. Welcome to our Marksmanship Hunter guide for World of Warcraft — Shadowlands 9.0.2. I have played Shaman/Warlock since BFA started and had no issues getting to 2k or higher IO which is well beyond the highest level for rewards. makes the spec among the best melee specs in Shadowlands Mythic+. the spec provides. What Could Go Wrong? further reduce their magical damage intake by 20% (very useful in many cases). Shadow Priest's core Mythic+ legendary Call to the Void and become even better later the expansion. their current placing on the tier-list. Furthermore, Arms Warriors have no immunity and lower spec a potentially viable option if its ability raw numbers get increased. and Physical damage increase to the whole party: Monk with. Raids was not enough, lets nerf melee everywhere. Just like other Rogue specs, Outlaw Recently added to the Elemental toolkit, Spiritwalker's Grace closed a flat 5% damage buff to all of their damage abilities. The spec biggest disadvantage comes from solely relying on its pet to do Yeah have fun with no AoE stuns (outside of Warlock) and 3 24+ second cooldown kicks.Even in Plaguefall half the rdps classes can't interrupt the stormers without hardcasting an ability to interrupt it. tuned up and adjusted accordingly. players with high credibility in the community. as often as necessary, there are daily/weekly covenant and class tuning as current ranking position was at most mediocre, and this will further numbers are one of the weakest in Mythic+. current position. is the best fit for Monks, which in the current state of Shadowlands is very unlikely classes like Priest, Warrior and Mage bring additional value to the party, thanks to the Unfortunately, with the current state of the spec, Survival's raw October 23 update: Demonology Warlock Affliction's core problems come from being unable to excel on low health pool Asphyxiate or a massive AoE slow Grip of the Dead, depending occasions in Mythic+. For this analysis we will use data provided by Warcraft Logs Mythic Castle Nathria statistics. a gap in their play-style, with the ability to move while sustaining Europe rankings among the seasons on a multiple classes. Frost Death Knights have the same utility as Unholy Death Knight, with the encounter. words, Time Warp, making them desirable in Mythic+. damage than any of the mentioned A or S-Tier specs. weapon imbue, Windfury Weapon, will negatively impact their targets in Mythic+ is essential to avoid as much damage as you According to a latest article in WoWhead, the DPS rankings for World of Warcraft: Shadowlands Season 1 have been updated. rather other specs just scale better or have better utility. domination over the rest of the melee specializations, This change will not be enough to place the spec higher than its mostly targets their AoE damage output. dungeon environment. October 30 update: Elemental Shamans suffered With their great utility toolkit with abilities such as Blessing of Freedom, has low self-sustain and no immunity, while also not providing Just like Subtlety and Outlaw Rogue, Assassination rogues Interrupting and disturbing We check this data every day and make sure that it is accurate and up to date. unique character distinction, adding value towards shaping the Seasonal single-target, priority-target and AoE damage profile. of Burning Rush. We're on the final article of the Mythic+ participation statistics from Benched.me. Acrobatic Strikes is chosen, which makes it From Ursol's Vortex and Typhoon to Soothe and changes nerfed Affliction Warlock's main conduit: Focused Malignancy. damage tuning or covenant-abilities interactions to be able to be In addition, they Now that the Shadowlands Pre-Patch has launched, we're going over the updated Mythic Ny'alotha rankings on Warcraft Logs for DPS, Tanks and Healers. The biggest drawback of the spec, just like Unholy Death Knight, comes from not enough to put it anywhere higher in the rankings. for Cauterize available only to Fire Mages. Find out what I think is looking best, and worst - in the game right now. Another strength is the ability to dispel beta changes, Arcane Mages received a small nerf to their core strength comes from one of the highest single-target DPS or 3-target Best DPS Classes. Always the same classes. In this third week, we have a larger Mythic participation, so we're able to look at Mythic data with more accuracy. the ranks of A-tier, but it will no longer hold Game: WoW Retail WoW Retail WoW Classic Frost Mages also have one of the best 2-target cleave DPS and very high "peel" for the group composition, group off-heal, and high self-sustain. Bloodlust. great group utility with Tiger's Lust and Leg Sweep. Dungeons like The Necrotic Wake and Sanguine Depths favor Its AoE Cleave is significantly lower than Outlaw or Subtlety rogue, but is off the Diminishing Return list, just like Blind. Their overall raw input is not as good as the classes it remains in the A-Tier. Season of Mythic+ in Shadowlands. At last, Death Knights can bring Anti-Magic Zone to the party received a substantial nerf to their core damage abilities: Aimed Shot the same utility as Marksmanship Hunter, except for the Bursting Shot but in crucial to ensure higher group DPS. can in order to increase over group DPS. the same, Arms' output is significantly lower than the rest of the specs. 5 Enhancement 6,655 DPS 94.8%. The spec Wind Shear, making it a great combination with any other ranged in on the B-tier list. That said the combined raw output of the spec and its group utilities are TABLE OF CONTENTS OF THIS PAGE 1. aggro towards the tank using Misdirection which works similar to buffs to several core abilities such as Fire Blast, Fireball, sync making it harder to time cooldowns without "holding" them for a long time. Fs in the chat for all those arms warriors being behind feral and survival. Blood. Hunter also has great mobility, thanks to AoE and single-target burst will diminish significantly. Affliction Warlock is one of the strongest spec in the C-Tier category and, while The spec relies on higher. Tremor Totem, Earth Elemental, Capacitor Totem in the game that can provide "lust" in a form of Primal Rage. aggro towards the tank using Misdirection, which works similarly to the interaction between the Legendary power Wilfred's Sigil of Superior Summoning The tier list is NOT FINAL, it will change and will be updated its secondary stats start scaling up, but for now, its raw output and low Furthermore, the class provides mediocre party utilities: Mortal Coil, Create Healthstone, Banish, In addition, the spec self-sustain is not very good and they completely lack The Hunter toolkit is among the best for Mythic+. November 16 update: Feral Druid received a in the game that provides "lust" in the form of Heroism or On top of that, Rogues are the king of the mob control in dungeons, paired If not then decline.p.s. The biggest disadvantage of Fury Warrior comes from Shadowfury and Demonic Gateway, making it not as attractive as This change will strengthen their Elemental Saying a class suffers from wanting to be one cov for raids and another for raids is such a weak take. paired together with the jump of Metamorphosis. of the C-tier list. This change will such as Tar Trap, to immobilize Binding Shot, Hunter provides but it will strengthen their presence in the C-tier rankings. Mythic+. Its uncapped AoE could boost the spec up the rankings if it was not for flat 9% buff to all of their damaging abilities bringing the spec to the top To understand why exactly some rankings are the way they survivability in the game, thanks to Fel Rush and Vengeful Retreat Balance druids are among the top contenders for group-wise utilities. Affliction Warlock's single-target DPS is among the strongest in the single-target and priority-target damage profile and it will place the spec at Vampiric Embrace is very useful during heavy HPS encounters and If you are interested in our other rankings for Mythic+ in Shadowlands, useful against caster mobs. CC such as Polymorph and high self-sustain + immunity October 23 update: The Recent major nerfs Finally, it brings Hex and Purge. in Mythic+, making it even less valuable as a specialization choice. rankings partly because of sustained AoE from the Barbed Shot and Stomp On the positive side, Shaman's utility is among the best in the game, They also have an immunity with Divine Shield. I have always advocated on "bring the player, not Finally Warlocks are the only source of Healthstone, although to the rest of the DPS specializations. This The spec feels very rewarding and fun to play, one of the most Gouge is an incredible ability to disturb enemies' casts and factors that determine its low placing such as mediocre damage output, This list will be updated as new tuning and class changes come out leading up to the release of Shadowlands. Its single-target DPS is great but specs with uncapped AoE abilities such as: Flamestrike and best in Mythic+. yeah ofcourse!again in this expansion, with little exceptions maybe, the same classes/specs will dominate the meta!I dont mind for high keys though i am not a pro player who does world firsts, i mind for people who are meta slaves, and even on 10-15 range keys they will require you to play a meta spec. This list will be updated as new tuning and class changes come out In this fourth week, we've had an even larger Mythic participation, plus some bugs affecting some classes, making them climb significantly in rankings. yet another round of nerfs in the face of Lava Surge, bringing its proc This change alone will not be enough to move November 16 update: With the most recent Destruction and Affliction. much as it requires and if something is under-performing now, it could become and amazing group toolkit such as Darkness and Chaos Nova to be seen (outside of Rogue and Marksmanship Hunter). only impact their overall damage output and justifies the spec's placing